Sven Co-op Map Database

OK good ideas, but don't pay too much attention to the votes and definitely don't hide maps based on "popularity" for the simple reason that votes aren't a reliable indicator of map quality. There are quite a lot of good maps and a few very good maps in the 'worst 50', the fact of the matter is that only a few people vote and they are often the ones that like to stick 1 star on everything, for reasons best known to themselves.

Interesting points. For many of us, the "do nothing"/garbage maps were a part of our SC upbringing, despite their flaws, so I can understand why they may have some value.

The site has been primarily focused on actual playable maps intended for SC—first targeting finished maps as priority, but also accommodating WIP and abandoned content. The ideas mentioned could possible utilize the tagging system. I would want to make sure the site stays clean of unwanted clutter but also does not make the tagging system too burdensome to maintain.

Currently these tags are used:

• unreleased - No playable download exists.
  • Disables all ratings.
  • Map visible throughout site.
• work-in-progress - Still being worked on with regular progress updates (any stage allowed—alpha/beta/concept. Can overlap with "unreleased").
  • Map visible throughout site.
  • Content disclaimer shown on download.
• abandoned - Development stopped, map unfinished. Must have some "playable" content even if it is broken or has no end. "Playable" can be interpreted loosely. Technically, unfinished/garbage should already be going here.
  • Map visible throughout site.
  • Content disclaimer shown on download.

It is possible to make tags which cause the map to be hidden across all site lists (i.e., a "garbage zone"), becoming accessible only via direct link, search query, or from a special list. I had thought about using this on"abandoned", but decided against since there are actually quite a few nice maps there. It seems the definition has been interpreted to encompass any case in which a developer discontinues support (even on an otherwise finished and polished map). Definitely open to suggestions. It may be helpful to break out the abandoned category into more specific tags to allow better filtering and organization.

Other resources:

• Bottom 50 maps - maps voted as the worst.

I can confirm the first map crashes when you approach a door at the end of a ladder near the end of the map. I do not know if this is a changelevel, or a model error. Most probably a model error since the repack is also using all the ugly model replacements that might be very broken.

During gameplay I can hear an alien grunt near that section but I never see it. My guess is the alien grunt model is crashing the game.

I dont even know if the "buttons you have to find" as the text ingame says, actually work, since I could find at least 2 extra map changes.

Now to rant about the map quality:

Architecture: 2/10
Custom enemies: 0/10 (ugly! and broken!)
custom weapons: 0/10 (same!)
Gameplay (enemy positioning, custom brush turrets, etc): 5/10 (meh)
Bugs: Yes (crash prone!)

not gonna bother testing the rest. I believe I did once, and my comment here in the past says everything there needs to be said.

Just played this, of course it has no ending. I don't know about the limits, but I think they were risen since 2010 so you might be able to do what you wanted.

Barely played the first map, one the weirdest I have ever played lol.

I think that's what I would do. But also would try to categorize maps with one extra category on top of yours. Like this:

Server lobbies (server lobby maps)
Garbage zone (here would go the famous boxes and maps that are unfinished way beyond repair/ripent fix)
Unfinished (maps that look at least "ok", but don't have a game_end or are quite unfinished but have the possibility to be fixed one day)

This way we can maybe one day fix the unfinished maps by finding them easily on the unfinished tab. Knowing that they are cool but lack the ending.

What if we had a page for entire categories of maps like this? For instance, "Server Lobbies" for server lobby maps, "Garbage Zone" for abandoned maps that don't meet the quality bar. That way the map browser doesn't get too cluttered (assuming that's the concern) and the maps aren't lost forever.

Unfinished/short/low-effort maps can still be enjoyable. There's usually at least one thing unique or interesting about them. Look at big_room_guy2. It has less content than Ghost Fuck but some guy in the comments can't get enough of it! I also noticed that my "nothing" map is played somewhat regularly, but I didn't upload here thinking it would get deleted for being a box.

The following are comments from the part 2 page that was deleted:

Alright, it's back up. The songs were removed from the archive and the scientist skins were set to random (-1). Ironically, "random" = 100% Walter.

Edit: According to the page history it's actually been back up since March, but that was the naughty version.

I just went ahead and fixed this myself.

I updated this to use global sound replacement instead. The repacked version is safe to install.

Just ripent it out, change the text, the music and the scientists skin colors to random. Done. No need to delete a good map.

This sounds ok to me. The map unfortunately will forever be tainted, at least in some of our memories, but I don't think that's grounds to block a clean version from the DB. If all racist references are 100% removed and validated to be gone, then it would not technically be breaking any rules.

The weapon scripts are fixed now but there are still lots of missing files.

I updated this so that it doesn't overwrite default game files and only includes what's required to play through the maps. There's still a ton to clean up but it's safe to install now.

Good idea, fixed.

The "verc_18" map name conflicts with the Project Quantum series. Since this is a custom sven version of that map I renamed it to "sc_verc_18" but feel free to choose a better name.

The "t0a0" map name conflicts with the HL Hazard course. No ripenting is required to fix that since it's the first map. I renamed it to "shl_t0a0" and uploaded shl_v1.11.zip which you can link to if that name is ok.

Agreed that it looks good for its age and good fun if you feel like blasting through grunts.

Evil town/dark city got renamed at some point and a new page was created for it. One of the duplicates were removed. Here is the remaining page if you want to play it. http://scmapdb.com/map:darkcity

Eh? What are you on about? It works properly and ends just fine.. Did you go down the final corridor?

It's worked as intended every single time I've played it so I have no idea how you managed to break it, gg..

It's not unfinished, you should read the description x[